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    Posted: 20 July 2017 at 6:35pm
Any help gratefully appreciated....
After a new set of ball joints on my '85 Mexican I went to check the camber, "way out" as expected.
Set my digital protractor against the wheel edge:-
1.5 degree negative camber, so turned the adjuster nut,
but the best I can get (full adjustment) is 1.3 degree negative?.
The book states 0.5 degree positive.... so I'm a mile off....!!
Any ideas why?
I see there's nuts available with a bigger offset for the custom team, but my car's standard.
Anybody else experienced this problem?
Steering feels heavy as a result (165 tyres shouldn't be that bad?)
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Hi Ken,

Can you post a couple of nice clear pics of the whole hub set up,it might show something wrong that's not so obvious.

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Passengers side,
(sorry, 1.1degree negative not 1.3 as previously stated)
88.9degrees just visible on scale
Set the camber nuts with the check facing forward to start, drove the car for a few days to let everything settle in, then went to adjust camber, nut is at full travel, (beyond starts bringing the wheel back in)
Drivers side is maxed out also, and is at 0degrees, so no chance of gaining a positive reading...
Can only assume the arms have had a mega pothole shunt???

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Ha, so that didn't work...
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Looks like the lower arm is not all the way home in the beam,or an inner bush is worn making it sit out at an angle.
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Cheers Ed for the reply
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Arms felt good in the bearings before assembly, Cheers for the advice, might just nip out and slacken the locking screw to just to double check the bottom arm's are fully home....
Will report back....
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Ed, huge thanks...
Not normally a hammer man, but in this case it fixed the problem!!
Slackened the bottom screw, beat sh*t out of the bottom arm with a big hammer and piece of wood, 1 mile drive and back and "Bingo" I have a 1.4degree positive camber, excellent!
Now all I have to to is wind the camber nut back and repeat the process for the drivers side.
Again, many thanks, too close to the trees here to see the obvious problem.
Beer owed
Ken



Double checked with my phone, 1.4 degree positive
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Nice one Ken,happy to help Wink

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How are you managing to post pictures from photobucket?
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I can't see pictures, just the usual photobucket please update thingy
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Originally posted by gayle

I can't see pictures, just the usual photobucket please update thingy

I must have jinxed it, they were there last night, but gone now
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Ok, new image hosting provider set up, cheers for the help from you guys for the step by step guide.

Ed, car was a pleasure to drive on the way to work this morning, heavy steering sorted.
What a difference a minute angle change to suspension can make.

Tracking set tonight, then a few more little jobs and she should be ready for her first big trip, ferry booked, Austria here we come....
Back seat out, front seats folded right back, plywood bed base made to sit over seats, 4'x6' piece of foam as a nice mattress, just need the duvet, pillows and camping stove and we're off...

Original photos reattached for reference:-







She's coming together, wedding done at the weekend for a good friend-



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Good luck on your adventure Ken ,and take plenty pics.The wee bug looks great.

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Yeah, back to my original plan of buying a Mexican rather than a 50's 60's Beetle.
Just don't have time in my life just now for welding cars....
and as you know, these "50 Jahre Kafer's" were undersealed and cavity wax injected by VW Mexico before their delivery into Germany, so the shell's in really good nick.
Just mechanically I've never encountered a car as bad, what a dog! however, it's only spanner work, which is easy Ying Yang
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